Metro Stars in Trouble?

[JureM]

Seems that the proposed Stadium they want to build is hitting some snags and their losses because of playing at Giants Stadium are huge...

http://www.nypost.com/sports/41143.htm

[Herndonite]

Seems that the proposed Stadium they want to build is hitting some snags and their losses because of playing at Giants Stadium are huge...

http://www.nypost.com/sports/41143.htm

When I saw the title of this string, I thought, "Duh, of course the MetroStars are in trouble. They're the MetroStars."

But upon reading the article, I learned that it is a reference to their financial condition, not their play on the field. :roll:

Would be a shame to lose that NY presence but MLS certainly can't afford a team that is a financial drain.

Maybe Rochester will finally get its club.

[JureM]

Ha ha...well, the MetroStars are in trouble on both sides, on and off the field. :devlaug:

Yes, it would be terrible to lose a team in NY but, considering the turnout at games and the cost to play at Giants Stadium if they don't get their new stadium its either fold the team or move. My thinking is that New Jersey just wants an out so they don't have to build that soccer only stadium that has been proposed..so, their excuse is that "they need a guarantee that the MLS is going to surivive." Well, its almost 10 years and the league is still going strong with expansion teams and a bunch of soccer only stadiums built or in the works. If New Jersey doesn't want them, then Rochester would be a great place for them to go.

[MTM]

The reports are that the 'Starz are loosing 3X as much as any other MLS club due to their contract with the NJ Sports Authority. The facility is too large; a 30,000 seat stadium would be ideal for the Metros, but NJ is playing hard ball, and will end up loosing this team in the end, IMHO

If the proposed stadium is built on the west side of Manhattan, I would expect that the NJ authority would have to go ahead with the Harrison builb, which would yield another MLS franchise in the area, maybe the resurection of the COSMOS brand (their colors would be the same as the Jets, seamless). If this scenario happens, I would say that "FOOTBALL" would be back in America, and for good this time. In any case the Metros "NEED" their own facility to survive in NY/NJ.

[Herndonite]

This guy has the Metros finishing dead last in the east!

http://www.ussoccer.com/editorial/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=162175

[JureM]

MTM, its not even that Giants Stadium is to large..and by the way, its depressing to be in that place when you have 12,000 sitting in an 80,000 seat stadium, but its how much renting the place costs them per game. They really do need a Stadium of their own, a smaller one of course. While it might add to travel time, I'd rather they play in Rutgers Stadium if they can.

Hern, not surprised at all that they are predicted for a last place finish. That defense is old and if Jeff Agoos is your rock back there, that spells trouble.

[MTM]

...They really do need a Stadium of their own, a smaller one of course...

The On Again - Off again saga that is the Metros Stadium fiasco may be ON Again, and this time for good. It appears the deal is "CLOSE" to being completed that would free up land in Harrison after all, to afford the Metros their "FINAL RESTING PLACE"; 20K -30K seater of course.

The problem is that The Town of Harrison would have to clean up the proposed site, but right now it's said to be a waste land, unusable, so the Metros would become "good citizens" by "RECLAMING" the blighted 200 acre plot, and restoring it to tax worthy status.

MONEY TALKS and , you know what walks ...

Lets Go METROS ...



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/mls/metros/2005-04-01-metro-stars-stadium_x.htm

[JureM]

Let's hope they finally do get things going on the project. But, I have a feeling there will be a snag. Considering that the land is a "waste land" and "unusable," I have a feeling it won't go through yet again. I can only imagine how much it will cost to clean it up.

The sad part is, most teams either have a nice small stadium or are in the process of building one...it would be nice if the NY Metropolitan area has something nice to call its own.

DC is probably in the same boat as well with the baseball team now taking over RFK Stadium...time for them to start as well.

[Herndonite]

A contaminated wasteland in Northern Jersey? I can't imagine that! :howler2:

[JureM]

A contaminated wasteland in Northern Jersey? I can't imagine that! :howler2:


It's the only one, there are no others. :sun:

[Ljubuski]

It might be the best thing for the league if the Metrostars were to go to Rochester.

It would clean out a bad situation with NJ as the above posts say and it would allow a new and fresh NY Soccer Club to emerge but this time with knowledge of what they need to do and how to do it properly.

The MLS will not tolerate not having a club in the NY area for long. There is huge interest there and seeing how other Sports Clubs (Chivas, Maple Leafs) are moving into MLS, and the association between Yankees/Man U, I smell a chance of some movement from them.

I honestly think it's a perfect fit. I've been to NY, and talked to some New Yorkers up here in TO, and I sense that big city mentality in every person I spoke with.

The Metrostars don't do what is perhaps the greatest city on earth any justice, but having some affiliation in the world's largest football club, would be up to par with New Yorkers.

Cheers

[Loco]

The Metros will never move to Rochester simply because the Rhinos would never allow it.

If things get out of hand with the Giants Stadium situation the MLS will most likely find the club another arena nearby at some college.

Sadly this ins't the biggest problem the Metroscum have. A new defensive line wouldn't hurt aswell as putting an end to their let's-break-the bank-and-bring-an-over-the-hill-european-player fettish. Spend the money on talented young, yet affordable Brazilians! These kids are traded of shoes and balls in the mother land for crissakes!

[Ljubuski]

Hey Loco,

How would the Rhinos have any say over a move by MLS? Does the US Soccer Association give the rights to existing clubs?

We got an A-League club too, the 'Lynx' but they've only complained about the situation, they can't really do anything about MLS coming to Toronto.

I'm curious if the US Association has a different set-up with MLS.

Also, does the US Association have jurisdiction over MLS? I'd be curious to know.

Cheers

[JureM]

US association? Do you mean the US Soccer Federation? The way I understand it is that the MLS is a separate entity from the USSF and they have nothing to do with each other.

The MLS is a strange animal in that the MLS pretty much runs every team in the league..so, when a European club wants a player they negotiate with the MLS and not that indivdual team. For example, Demarcus Beasley going to PSV...PSV negotiated with the league and not with Chicago. The transfer fee then goes to the MLS itself.

As for the A-League...it is considered our version of the 2nd Division...with the only exception being that there is no promotion to the 1st Division. Even though it is a 2nd Division, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) the A-League is its own separate entity having nothing to do with the MLS. Though I think there is some agreement where A-League players can get called up to play for an MLS team.

Now, as for the Rhino's situation...I don't know what could happen if say the MetroStars desided to move up to Rochester..though, the main talk is that if there is an expansion again, Rochester would be considered and the Rhino's could be absorbed into the MLS.

[MTM]

...it would be nice if the NY Metropolitan area has something nice to call its own...

I drove by Acquaduct race track the other day, and I went hmmmmmmm.

The land would be ideal for a small stadium. They don't have horse races there no longer so the land is vertually vacent. Easily accessable, right on the Brooklyn/Queens border, a perfect spot for a soccer specific stadium.

GO COSMOS

[JureM]

I drove by Acquaduct race track the other day, and I went hmmmmmmm.

The land would be ideal for a small stadium. They don't have horse races there no longer so the land is vertually vacent. Easily accessable, right on the Brooklyn/Queens border, a perfect spot for a soccer specific stadium.

GO COSMOS


Actually they still race at Aqueduct. The NYRA is strange. What they do is during the winter racing season, the horses race at Aqueduct...during the spring/summer racing season they move everything over to Belmont. For I believe a 6 week stretch in late July and August Belmont shuts down and all the races move up to Saratoga, then returns to Belmont for September, October, and November.

I know a few years back, talk was that Aqueduct was losing money and was going to shut down. Then they talked about a number of things for that site...one was to build a new baseball stadium for the Mets...the other was to build a new hockey arena for the New York Islanders to play in. Both fell through and I know the Islanders are planning to refurbish the Nassau Collesium.

Another idea would be to expand Mitchell Field out on Long Island. I think the soccer field there was able to hold about 12,000 for the Goodwill games a few years back. I'm sure if they are able to work on it, you can build a nice 25,000 seater and there is enough room there to build a few practice fields.

[Herndonite]

After a bad start, the Metros looked pretty good against KC. If Galvan Ray gets hot, they could actually make the playoffs.

[MTM]

I would not use the first game to judge the quality of the team. The weather conditions was the most important factor, no one could play under those conditions. I would hope that the second game would represent what the Metros have to offer this year.

They are still short at the back. Agoos was at left back vs. KC ???
Former Rhyno, Carlos Mendez was paired with Parke in center and Leach wide right. Their midfield was always solid, with Guevara, Lisi & Gaven, they looked even better with Djorkaeff. Mike Bradley played OK, but he need improvement. The up side for him is great, he is only 16. When Gaven returns, their midfield will be solid.

The Forward pair was Galvan-Rey and Wolyniec. They appeared to have a great understanding and they both were working very hard for each other. John and Youri set up both goals by Galvan-Rey.

I also have to say that Bo should have stopped both goals. Great setup play by the Metros, but Bo suc*ed. That said, Bob Bradley may be getting it right after all ...

[Herndonite]

Yes, Bradley seemed out of his depth. Didn't realize he was so young.

I'm almost always impressed with Wolyniec. If I were a defender, I'd hate to be up against him.

I agree that Bo didn't look too good on either of the goals.