Jersey Thought

[Hajduk Chicago]

Just realized this which got me pretty excited. WE GET NEW JERSIES!!!!
What design would you all like to see. Still thinking about my idea. Definately need the checkers to stick out. Some think it looks ugly, but we are known for the blatantly standoutish checkers. What you guys think? Or maybe we could do horrible drawings, scan em, and post em, then vote?Just a thought.

What sucks is that nike will probably make em all look the same again.

[Super Croat]

I like the checkers. I've never liked our blue jerseys.... I loved our whites from Euro '96

[HRV123]

I still think the best jerseys we've ever had were the long sleeved Lotto ones with nothing but red and white checkers. Awesome!:D :clap:

[Uskok]

Great topic, there's no question that checkers must be incorporated, it's our trademark ......... My pipe-dream is to see a black jersey ( Kind of like one of Cleveland's Croatian teams a few years ago ). Wouldn't that shirt look great with Boban written on the back!

[robin]

I know most of you guys like the checks, but to be honest I was never a big fan of them. Now believe me, I wear mine with pride every time we play and sometimes for days before a big game, but I always thought National team jersies should be solid with no stripes or sashes, etc. (the only exception should be Argentina). I mean look way back when when Cro selections played before and during WW2, they always wore solid red shirts with white shorts and blue socks. I know we played one game after we became independant in red shirts against the Ukraine and the combination looked great (Even Majstor said this). Anyway, I know we will continue to wear checked jersey's because that has been our symbol now for more than 10 years, and I will purchase the new shirt as soon as it goes on sale, i just wanted to state my opinion that's all. :cool:

[JureM]

This is where I disagree with you Robin... I feel the Checkered jersey is unique and looks great...its what makes our NT stand out...put it this way;

When you seen light blue vertical stripes who do you think of? Argentina of course....

When you see White shirts, black shorts, white socks you know you are playing the Germans.

When you see all blue? Italia.

When you see solid red shirts, white shorts, blue socks? Who do you think of? One of many countries...Czech Republic....the US NT wore the same uniform style during the women's WC...etc.

If we lose the full checkers on the jersey's we lose what makes us unique as a nation and a NT. Then we become like everone else. Everytime I wear my Lotto white, or my Nike checkered jersey (the first one) or the first Blue Nike shirt with the checkers on the sleeves the statement becomes "Oh Croatia...great NT. Boban!! Suker!!" It makes you feel good that the country is recognized.

Unfortunatly with the current vlada in Hrvatska we may revert to other colors...;)

[robin]

Steve, I know it makes us unique bro, I guess I'm just a traditionalist when it comes to team colors. It's just like I said, I am proud to wear my shirt wherever I go, I just wish we could have been RED, white and blue from the start. Peace out man!

[JureM]

Originally posted by robin
Steve, I know it makes us unique bro, I guess I'm just a traditionalist when it comes to team colors. It's just like I said, I am proud to wear my shirt wherever I go, I just wish we could have been RED, white and blue from the start. Peace out man!

I understand...;)

Though I'd hate to be mistaken for the Czech NT....:D

[robin]

Steve, you do know that from the beginning Croatia wore Red, White an Blue.

[JureM]

Actually I think these were the first kits the NT wore ever back in 1990...made by Patrick...but I know before that we wore solid red shirts. They were solid red in the back.

[robin]

Steve, I meant from before WW2 when the HNS was first established.:cool:

[JureM]

Originally posted by robin
Steve, I meant from before WW2 when the HNS was first established.:cool:

Zooom right over my head...lol....yep....I know. I thought you meant from our current independence.

[robin]

Don't worry dude, even if we had pink shirts with purple polka dots I would wear it with pride!;)

[JureM]

Originally posted by robin
Don't worry dude, even if we had pink shirts with purple polka dots I would wear it with pride!;)

Dinamovac would love that color combo. :D

[Cro Power]

Stipe,Croatian first kit,(that one you've posted)i\was made by this artist dude(forgot his name)for that occasion.Before that we NEVER have had checkerd jersey,NEVER.(Grba is absolutely right).We had,RED,WHITE AND BLUE with our Scudetto on the chest,wich is checkerd coat of arms.

Grba,we have had this conversations million times and I do agree with you,but would still like to have certain dosage of checkers on the shirt,similar to white Lotto and first Nike blue and/or maybe even current Nike away(the one we've beaten; slovenes with).

God help us with Nike's next design...

[CroatTommy7]

Those blue Jerseys are pure good luck for us! we beat Bulgaria in the last game of qualifications and then Slovenia with them and in France 98 we never lost a game while wearing the blue! i am always confident when we wear the blue, which looks great I think. But definetly Nike can do much better with the next jerseys, but something tells me they will be generic Nike crap.:(

[robin]

Croatman10, it figures that you like blue.;)

[dinamovac11]

Originally posted by robin
even if we had pink shirts with purple polka dots I would wear it with pride!;)

hhmm...what kind of pride are you talking about Robin?:D

HNS has a say in what kind of shirts they want. Nike has generic shirts like CM10 said but ours are always different because of the checkers and I like that bacause everybody knows exactly who is playing. I remember when Croatia came here to Australia, they had all red shirts and they looked great but I think they used them only for the tour to Aus.

I would keep the checkers because we have a tradition with them now. Lotto was the best. They made shirts especially for us, not for 123562345123 other teams aswell. The current shirt has grown on me and I like it even though I don't really like Nike very much. Oh well, I guess money is the most important thing these days.

[robin]

Ok, everybody I want to make this clear as day:





I'm not F'n Gay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ero]

Originally posted by robin
Steve, you do know that from the beginning Croatia wore Red, White an Blue.

Yeah, but hopw difficult was it to make chequered jerseys in the 1940s? Nobody cared for uniforms back then, no replicas were made and the important thing was to recognise your teammate...

checks all the way !!

[BaD^bLu^BoY]

i miss lotto :(

btw...the blue jerseys from france 98 are the best jerseys weve had :D

[CroatTommy7]

haha what do you mean Robin;) actually i always like the home N/T jerseys better but the blue ones like Bad Blue Boy said from 98 were the sickest!!! and they bring us a lot of good luck for some reason, nothing to do with Dinamo. I agree with Dinamovac:D no matter how generic Nike is our jerseys always are unique, they have to be no matter what with those checkers. Also good point by Ero they had no technology in the 40's and recognizing your team mate was the biggest priority.

LOTTO WAS THE BEST!!!! it was specifically made for us and Parma lol that was thier only 2 teams of some value back then. BRING BACK LOTTO! nothing better than Italian soccer design....anything but Kappa lol.

They should make the checkers on the home cover the front in the shape of the GRB! and the back. While on the aways they should still keep em Blue with the checkers just on the collar and going in a triangle from the neck to the arms. Whatever they do as long as they dont screw around with it too much, ITS OUR NATIONAL SYMBOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap:

[Hajduk Chicago]

Originally posted by CroatMan10
Those blue Jerseys are pure good luck for us! we beat Bulgaria in the last game of qualifications and then Slovenia with them and in France 98 we never lost a game while wearing the blue!

Gotta disagree. Remember the piece of govno game against Ecuador in WC2002? Now, in 1998 i will agree. Wore them straight through the elimination round, except the france game and we all know what happened.

By the way. Anyone know where I can get a current NT blue kit?

[JureM]

I don't think you can get the current Nike blue but at www.subside.co.uk you can get the original Nike blue which is my favorite jersey. You can get them in both short sleeve and long sleeve.

[JureM]

The original Nike Checkers are nice too...

[JureM]

Of couse the Lotto's for all of you...
Home:

[JureM]

away

[JureM]

Originally posted by robin
Ok, everybody I want to make this clear as day:





I'm not F'n Gay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What? You're not happy??? :D

[Ero]

ah those jerseys... :)

[Omolje]

My ideal jersey would stick to the ideal red,white ,blue style that were ben using since 1912 and what generations of diaspora croatian teams have stuck to, yes we are known for the all out red/white checkered jersey and its our trademark and makes us stik out, but i think its a little overboard, i would love to see a red home jersey (red front and back) with chekers imporporated into the sleve and underarm with white on the sides, that would be my ideal jersey, with a duplicate white reserve jersey. I drew a cheap ass sketch on paint since i dont got no high teach graphics programs to show u what i mean, its basic, not overboard but i think it does the trick. If only the Nike pederi could come up with something like this :D

[JureM]

Originally posted by Omolje
My ideal jersey would stick to the ideal red,white ,blue style that were ben using since 1912 and what generations of diaspora croatian teams have stuck to, yes we are known for the all out red/white checkered jersey and its our trademark and makes us stik out, but i think its a little overboard, i would love to see a red home jersey (red front and back) with chekers imporporated into the sleve and underarm with white on the sides, that would be my ideal jersey, with a duplicate white reserve jersey. I drew a cheap ass sketch on paint since i dont got no high teach graphics programs to show u what i mean, its basic, not overboard but i think it does the trick. If only the Nike pederi could come up with something like this :D

Now that would be a sweet jersey...do me a favor. Copywrite the thing and get royalites if Nike comes up with that design...:D

Your version keeps the uniqueness of the checkers...nice job.

[VAN CRO]

Originally posted by Omolje
My ideal jersey would stick to the ideal red,white ,blue style that were ben using since 1912 and what generations of diaspora croatian teams have stuck to, yes we are known for the all out red/white checkered jersey and its our trademark and makes us stik out, but i think its a little overboard, i would love to see a red home jersey (red front and back) with chekers imporporated into the sleve and underarm with white on the sides, that would be my ideal jersey, with a duplicate white reserve jersey. I drew a cheap ass sketch on paint since i dont got no high teach graphics programs to show u what i mean, its basic, not overboard but i think it does the trick. If only the Nike pederi could come up with something like this :D

Dude seriously thats a deadly jersey. I showed my dad that and he thought that it was cool. If I were you I'd e-mail Nike.

[Ero]

Originally posted by Omolje
My ideal jersey would stick to the ideal red,white ,blue style that were ben using since 1912 and what generations of diaspora croatian teams have stuck to, yes we are known for the all out red/white checkered jersey and its our trademark and makes us stik out, but i think its a little overboard, i would love to see a red home jersey (red front and back) with chekers imporporated into the sleve and underarm with white on the sides, that would be my ideal jersey, with a duplicate white reserve jersey. I drew a cheap ass sketch on paint since i dont got no high teach graphics programs to show u what i mean, its basic, not overboard but i think it does the trick. If only the Nike pederi could come up with something like this :D

hahahaha Omolje...that sketch is a classic :) and the writing...pivo za tebe zemljace :) :)

[Uskok]

Does anyone know the terms of the Nike contract? ( Duration / $$$ )
I think Nike's jersies in Japan were ugly and cheap ( for all their teams ), remember Olic needing scissors?

[robin]

Uskok, I think we signed a 5 year deal with Nike worth 4-6 million dollars in 2000, whickh means we have 2 1/2 years left with them(not 100% sure). Omolje, nice design bro, I like that the shirt is predominately red with checks incorporated. I believe my good friend Majstor had suggested something like this, and I have to say it works out well.:clap:

[robin]

Omolje as long as your designing shirts, can you please design Hajduk a new shirt, I don't want to have to wait another 3 years before they get a new shirt like I did when they were with Diadora!:stupid:

[coreuptrec]

As much as I love the checkers and the jerseys we've had I've gotta agree with ditching them for a solid color, or at least tone them down like the Lotto jerseys. Although, I do like that red jersey that someone designed, thats pretty sweet. I kind of liked the style of jersey that Slovenia had but I think those are kappa.

[robin]

Kappa shirts are too tight fitting as most of us know, and therefore could and should not be worn by thirty somethings who regularly frequent the Pubs and Cafes every weekend!:beer: :cheers:

[JureM]

Originally posted by robin
Kappa shirts are too tight fitting as most of us know, and therefore could and should not be worn by thirty somethings who regularly frequent the Pubs and Cafes every weekend!:beer: :cheers:

Kappa shirts are for queers. That look is straight out of Back Street Boys. Plus, they look like something more suited for deep sea diving or luge. :D

As for Nike, they screwed up all the NT uniforms not just ours. They really do look cheap...I hope they do a much better job than they did on these pst sets...but, then again, Adidas didn't do such a hot job with their kits this past WC as well. Both Nike and Adidas made their kits way to generic looking.

[robin]

Yeah Stipe that' true, but Nike's were far more uglier than Adidas's. Nike and everybody else should just stick to basics like Umbro. Umbro's slogan is " JUST SOCCER" and believe me they live up to this.

[JureM]

Umbro usually does a great job with their kits as does Adidas..but Adidas surprised me with the fact that all their NT kits were the exact same design this past WC...just was Nike's were. The Germans were fine because they were in their traditional style kits which is solid white shirts, black shorts, white socks...though they went away from their traditional green away kits to black ones....

(Trivial Question.....why did Germany wear Green for their away kits???)


Anyway, lets hope that originality goes back to uniform design this year...

By the way, hands down for me, the best uniforms were Germany's kits in Euro96..it was a classic addidas design.

[robin]

I believe the Mansshaft as they are know in Deutshland took the Green color of the famous Black Forrest for their away kits. I could be wrong though.:cool:

[JureM]

Originally posted by robin
I believe the Mansshaft as they are know in Deutshland took the Green color of the famous Black Forrest for their away kits. I could be wrong though.:cool:

You would be wrong...the answer is that after WWII nobody would play Germany in any athletic event. The first country to do so was Ireland and out of respect for that, they adopted green for their away kits.

[robin]

Wow, that's interesting bro, I could have sworn I read someplace that it was because of the color of the Black Forrest. Anyhow, Great question Stipe, it just proved that even the great Grba doesn't know everything about Euro soccer. ;) :D :cool:

[Cro Power]

Stipe,I tend to disagree:
Shwartzwald is the forrest in Germany and they do have their away jersey in green do to a green colour of their woods.On that note,german passports are green as well.
Again,I might be wrong///

[CroatTommy7]

That Jersey design is GREAT Omolje!!!! sick jersey to wear on the pitch or just casually even!!!!

and that trivia question just proves how great the Irish are:cool: :clap:

[robin]

I agree Croatman, the Irish are simply class. Zivjela Hrvatska, Long Live Eire!!:clap:

[JureM]

Originally posted by Cro Power
Stipe,I tend to disagree:
Shwartzwald is the forrest in Germany and they do have their away jersey in green do to a green colour of their woods.On that note,german passports are green as well.
Again,I might be wrong///

Again, it could be an "urban legend" on the respect to the Irish team part but, I asked this question to a German friend of mine that I played College soccer with and also another German guy from the Cosmopolitan Soccer League and I got the same answer from both of them and it was the Irish answer..but again, who knows.

[Ljubuski]

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Don't like the checkers too much. It's turned into some marketing tool for profits sake. It belongs over the player's heart and that's it.

Solid red, with white shorts and blue socks. Or all white.

But if they do go with the checkers again I have to go with the lotto full sleeve from Euro 96. And the accompanying whites were class.

Cheers

[Ero]

I like the checkers all over the shirt, I think a solid red shirt will become too much like the hundreds of other teams that wear the same...we have a unique flag and grb, nobody has anything similar. The checkerboard Grb is the centrepiece of every Croatian flag, and righfully it is the centerpiece of our National Team jerseys...

[baraba]

I agree with Ero. Although tradition may dictate that we should wear solid red, like someone said, back then the jersey wasn't for fashion or identification. Countries just chose shirts that represented the national colours and not much effort was put into it. The checkers are awesome. We are instantly identifiable and they are just as much part of out heritage as the red, white and blue. The lotto jerseys were works of art if you ask me. Yes, they are a little loud and stand out but so are Croatians. :)

I do think Nike could do a much better job though. Hopefully, these new jerseys will be an improvement on the current ones. I mean, I still own the jersey but am not as impressed by it as I should be.

[JureM]

Thats exactly what I've been saying all along..the checkers on the jersey are exactly what makes our NT unique and instantly identifiable. Again, we go to a solid red, we end up looking like the Czech Republic and like everyone else...

Though, Omolje's version of the new jersey is nicely done as it will make both sides of the debate happy in that he has incorportated the checkers with a solid color.

[Omolje]

u got it jure but the sad thing is i know nike wont please both crowds and again wel be given a totaly checkered jersey, which again thers nothing wrong with, be loud and proud as someone said and its beautiful on the pitch, but for casual wear its sometimes a little to much if u know what i mean, so after seing my ideal design (red, with grb's towned down) does anyone else have any ideas?? its not tough jst take my image and do shit with it on paint.

[JureM]

Here's my version...all it is is the original Nike Blue jersey with the checkers all around the sleeves instead of part way around. In other words I just got rid of the dark blue strip.

[JureM]

Though I still like Omolje's version best...;)

Though what I would do is make the logo much nicer (the way Lotto had it in 98) and I would center it just the way Lotto had it in 98 as well.

[JureM]

The Away Kit....

[Super Croat]

They can try the Vancouver Croatia Over-35 teams uni's...

[robin]

I too realise that our home checked jersey makes us easily identifiable and is unique, but I also know that wearing the jersey outside of going to a game or going to watch HR. on TV is virtualy impossible. I mean it's just like Omolje said, it' not exactly wearable for just plain casual wear like most soccer kits are. I wear my Hajduk and Barca jersey's wherever I go, but I don't really wear our home NT shirt for fear of being laughed at by hot chicks and anybody else who isn't blind. Our away shirts for the most part haven't been so loud except maybe the 98 WC away, and therefore have been wearable outside of soccer related activities. Just my opinion boys, believe me when we get our new kits I'll be the first one to order both the home and away, no matter how loud they are.

[Croskater]

I liked Jure's idea. Here's one I did with the same concept, but with the full kit. Also, I really think the white jerseys from Euro 96 were awesome.

[robin]

I definately think the sleeves should not be checked, I mean for me the shirt looks like a horse jockey's unform. Omolje's original design still looks the best.

PS I think our next shirt should have a collar whether it's all checked or something else.

[Croskater]

Originally posted by robin
I definately think the sleeves should not be checked, I mean for me the shirt looks like a horse jockey's unform. Omolje's original design still looks the best.

PS I think our next shirt should have a collar whether it's all checked or something else.

lol Yeah, the long sleeve checks do look kinda like a jockey's uniform, but I still think they should be somewhere on the shirt at least...The Euro 96 white ones would still be my first choice...And yeah, I also wouldn't mind the next one having a collar, but I doubt Nike will do it.

[JureM]

Does anyone know when Nike will unveil all the uniforms???

[Ero]

probably by Christmas I think, adidas already unveiled theirs. If not that, a few months b4 Euro...

[CroatTommy7]

When I sport the home checkered lotto jersey i get quite the opposite response from people usually, esspecially hot girls;) , but yeah the current Nike home ones are not at all wearable outside of soccer games.

[Omolje]

hehe wel croatman if u lived where i do and not to many ppl know anything about soccer let alone Croatia, then u wouldnt appreciate being called a pizzaman when your wearing our svetinja jersey, i could care less what they think but it still pissed me of, anyways its cool u guys all liked my first design the red top (stil incorporating the grb) which i hope one day well get something similar to that , we really ned a red home shirt heres the reserve white i came up with

[JureM]

2 great designs by Omolje....I'm begining to wonder about you! :D

Both would be great NT kits for home and away. Great job.

[CroatTommy7]

thats an amazing away jersey! where can i buy it !!! damn thats good:clap: :clap:

Oluja? haha JureM too much 7up for you its Omolje ;)

[JureM]

Yeah....senior moment on my part. :D

[mARZ]

Omolje please forward those designs onto the peasants @ Nike.. they are bloody brilliant (especially the away strip) :D ;)

Who knows what Nike will come up with next.. what ever it is it aint gonna be pretty.. it never is :rolleyes:

[Cro Power]

Yeah,Omolje,send them to Nike...

[robin]

Omolje, brilliant away strip, I swear I'm sending these drawings to Nike Headquarters Europe in Holland!:clap:

[Omolje]

i saw the nikesoccer site but i know i wont get a reply from them ,whats nike europes website/mail??? it wouldnt hurt to email them the wishes of many Croatian fans about a toned down jersey before they design a new one

[robin]

I believe Nike has a Soccer website which is seperate from all other sports. Maybe you can find some info there, otherwise I really don't know where to get an address for them.

[coreuptrec]

Originally posted by Omolje
hehe wel croatman if u lived where i do and not to many ppl know anything about soccer let alone Croatia, then u wouldnt appreciate being called a pizzaman when your wearing our svetinja jersey, i could care less what they think but it still pissed me of, anyways its cool u guys all liked my first design the red top (stil incorporating the grb) which i hope one day well get something similar to that , we really ned a red home shirt heres the reserve white i came up with

I got that same pizza man comment from the guys on my soccer team.

[Omolje]

ye my highschool soccer coach would always bug me if he could borrow my shirt cz hes having a picnic with his mom and needs the ideal tablecloth , fuken talijancina :punch: :hammer: hes just jealous :D

[BaD^bLu^BoY]

the thing with the checks is that they are a great marketing tool...dont know how much u guys now about marketing, but it all has to do with branding and positioning

they are instantly recognisable, this would obviously lead to increased sales etc.. so i doubt nike would get rid of them

i like them anyway...like everyone else has already said, they make us unique

[Cro Power]

They've asked me if I work with Formula 1?????????????????????

[gasparov]

The checks stay, it's part of our identity, and that's that!!!

[Cro Power]

Originally posted by gasparov
The checks stay, it's part of our identity, and that's that!!! Yes,but toned down...you gotta admit they're loud and inapropriate on the shirt,no?

[gasparov]

Cro Power, well maybe they can tone them down a little.:D

[Cro Power]

Yes, my friend.Were now respectable team that everyone is avoiding to play.Nike will fuck up again,you'll see...

[CroatTommy7]

Italians should know better;) just think of it this way the better we play the less questions people ask about our Unique looking jerseys, because they now know who we are and if we do even better in this Euro or possibly and more likely W/C 2006 then there shall be no questions about our identity. Thats another reason why we have to be thankful to the Vatreni they already informed like 75% of the World with that display in 98:clap:

[JureM]

Guys...I just want to point out over the next few pictures that if some Mexican League team known as UAG is proud to wear the checkers on their jersey's well....there is definitly know reason why we shouldn't...take a look:

[JureM]

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[POPES XI]

The first jersey we had in euro 96 is the best, no doubt. I would love to see the blue jersey we had in france 98, but instead of blue it should be black.

[CroatTommy7]

HAHA MEXICANS!:clap: :clap:

No black on our jerseys or any other colour that isn't red white or blue, thats just the way I personally feel. What is this NHL or NFL jerseys? thats why I didn't like Nike's original jerseys for us with those really dark Blue patches under the arms that looked almost black, do we have black in the flag? on the grb? no so I dont think it would be right to have it on our jerseys since we already started going with the Red White and Blue.

[Cro Power]

:)

[Eschat0logy]

Does anyone know a good website in the United States that I could purchase a Croatian National Team football jersey for a reasonable price? Thanks.

[JureM]

Here's one site:

Soccer Plus:

http://www.soccerplus.net/outwear.php

Just do a search for Croatia.

Here's another, but this one is from England but its a great site:

www.subside.co.uk