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JureM
06-24-2005, 11:09 AM
It's time to clean out your PM box...its full.
markOH
06-24-2005, 12:13 PM
CAN I POST IN THIS THREAD? :tooth:
Hajduk_Hrvatska
06-24-2005, 12:43 PM
THREAD OF THE YEAR :froggy: :grin2: :bouncing:
:trooper:
JureM
06-24-2005, 10:24 PM
whats the over/under that this thread becomes yet another "Off Topic" thread. :clap:
Ljubuski
06-24-2005, 10:58 PM
It's time to clean out your PM box...its full.
Ok Striko Jure.
Cheersch
JureM
06-25-2005, 07:26 AM
Ok Striko Jure.
Cheersch
bwahahahaha. Okej rodzo.
Ljubuski
06-30-2005, 03:48 PM
Ok, it's cleanead out.
Now what?
JureM
06-30-2005, 03:54 PM
Ok, it's cleanead out.
Now what?
To be honest with you...I really don't know. :laugh2:
Ljubuski
06-30-2005, 06:28 PM
To be honest with you...I really don't know. :laugh2:
I guess this concludes the thread.
Well it was nice while it lasted.
Cheersch
JureM
06-30-2005, 06:34 PM
This thread will go on...it will be like all our other threads...it will be the unofficial off topic thead, just like the rest of them. :clap:
Ljubuski
06-30-2005, 06:51 PM
This thread will go on...it will be like all our other threads...it will be the unofficial off topic thead, just like the rest of them. :clap:
Methinks you have our Sabor confused with the Pilacracy.
Cheersch and God Bless America.
croat hogan
06-30-2005, 09:05 PM
This thread will go on...it will be like all our other threads...it will be the unofficial off topic thead, just like the rest of them. :clap:
If thats the case i got HDTV yesterday amzing stuff. I really could waste the whole summer watching it non-stop.
JureM
06-30-2005, 09:11 PM
and so it begins... :angel:
markOH
07-01-2005, 05:34 AM
what's with all the america stuff jure? don't you know it's canada day?
Zvonimir
07-01-2005, 05:42 AM
what's with all the america stuff jure? don't you know it's canada day?
Good point there. :clap:
Ljubuski
07-01-2005, 07:29 AM
July 4th is a few days off, no harm in some early celebrations.
Cheersch
CroatTommy7
07-01-2005, 10:45 AM
Yup Canada day, long weekend :thumbup2:
JureM
07-01-2005, 03:49 PM
what's with all the america stuff jure? don't you know it's canada day?
Just getting an early start on July 4th...plus, I wasn't born up in Canada, its up to them to sport the Maple Leaf. :winkg:
Ljubuski
07-01-2005, 04:26 PM
Just getting an early start on July 4th...plus, I wasn't born up in Canada, its up to them to sport the Maple Leaf. :winkg:
Maple Shmurf!
For those who aren't in the know, the Maple Leaf is orginally the symbol for the French Canadians but was adopted by the Union Jack wearing Brits here to make 'Canada', itself originally a French term, more one country.
Even the anthem is a French nationalist tune, but in English is such a watered down version it's a disgrace to the whole country.
As soon as the English here adopted the Maple Leaf and the name Canadian, the French dropped it and re-adopted the Fleur de Lis and called themselves 'Quebecois'.
Canada is nothing more than a by-product of simple-minded, wishful thinking liberals who don't know anything; and hardcore blue-nosed Brits who were petrified of the Army of the Potomac after the War between the States.
Cheersch and oh yeah...
It's supposed to be called Dominion Day, but that too was changed. What kind of a country renames itself over and over again. Do I detect a place where the whole identity is trapped in a vertigo like state of confusion?
I think so....
croat hogan
07-02-2005, 08:25 AM
Maple Shmurf!
For those who aren't in the know, the Maple Leaf is orginally the symbol for the French Canadians but was adopted by the Union Jack wearing Brits here to make 'Canada', itself originally a French term, more one country.
Even the anthem is a French nationalist tune, but in English is such a watered down version it's a disgrace to the whole country.
As soon as the English here adopted the Maple Leaf and the name Canadian, the French dropped it and re-adopted the Fleur de Lis and called themselves 'Quebecois'.
Canada is nothing more than a by-product of simple-minded, wishful thinking liberals who don't know anything; and hardcore blue-nosed Brits who were petrified of the Army of the Potomac after the War between the States.
Cheersch and oh yeah...
It's supposed to be called Dominion Day, but that too was changed. What kind of a country renames itself over and over again. Do I detect a place where the whole identity is trapped in a vertigo like state of confusion?
I think so....
Whats wrong with your anthem? I sounds like a college fight song i love it. Always gets me in the mood to be more active.
Much better than the US anthem. The only cool thing about our anthem is the story behind it.
Ljubuski
07-02-2005, 09:08 AM
Whats wrong with your anthem? I sounds like a college fight song i love it. Always gets me in the mood to be more active.
Much better than the US anthem. The only cool thing about our anthem is the story behind it.
It's a drowned out FRENCH nationalist song, that is timid and weak because the words were changed by weak-kneed liberals who don't understand real countries are earned, not given.
Furthermore, 95% of Canadians can't sing it, and perhaps more think the Star Spangled Banner is a much better tune.
We had a great anthem before and it was called God Save the Queen but it was replaced in an era, (the useless 60's) where morons ruled.
The Flag, anthem and Canada you know are nothing more than a liberal ploy to unite the French and English in Canada from the 60's and 70's by destroying each other's culture and making them loyal NOT to Canada (or the Queen) but to the Liberal Party of Canada.
The only thing they've managed to produce is a country where we face major revolts from provinces, cultural backlash against amalgamating the French and English, and a potential break-up of the country that could very possibly lead to war, and of course an identity where 'we don't know what we are, but we know what we're not...' and 95% of the country can't pass a civics course.
As long as we know who Pearson and Trudeau are, and vote liberal,
it's all good.
Cheersch
ps. I've aced every civics test I've ever had, and I can sing the anthem in both languages.
CroatTommy7
07-02-2005, 09:13 AM
If I had to sing God Save the Queen I would rather DIE!, you are right Ljubuski Canada doesn't know what it is because it never faught off the English like the Americans did. We are still an English colony, whose face is on the money? and the French at least have more culture in Quebec(not to say they are without blame). I respect Canada and I do have an emotional attachment to the GTA(because I've seen other places and I don't like em), but Canada is not a real country, and I can never love it like I do Croatia.
Omolje
07-02-2005, 10:50 AM
thats what iv been trying to explain to cakers over my highskol years but to no avail, they just dont get it
JureM
07-02-2005, 10:55 AM
what's a caker???
baraba
07-02-2005, 11:31 AM
what's a caker???
I guess the closest American word to it is Cracker. But the connotation of "cake" is not as pejorative. Anyone who can't really identify a culture for themselves other than "Canadian" (whatever that means) would be called a Cake. Cakers, the way I use it, is a bit more derogatory meaning "hard core cake."
People get mad at me when I say that Canadians don't have a culture other than the commercialism and materialism they appropriate from the US but no one has ever convinced me otherwise. Albeit, I do admit we are a very young country and so geographically dispersed that it might be normal to not have a fully developed culture or identity other than using words like "multicultural, tolerant, peaceful..." which, to me, don't give people much to cling to.
Well, Happy Canada Day anyways.
Licki Macak
07-02-2005, 11:34 AM
Its an Italian saying for the English....cake eaters lol....mangi cakes
Getting back to Canada, correct me if Im wrong but the reason the term Dominion is nt used any more is because we have our own Constitution now so technically we do not fall under the umbrella of Dominion any more.
Ljubo my friend when the PC was in power then why did they not change the currency and get rid of that bitch of a whore off our bills, Ill tell you why...because the PC party if full of bleeding English bastards also.
Didnt Canada have a war with the Yanks so how can you say we didnt fight for our freedom.
Also remember this country was first discovered and settled by the French{ and yes Im aware of who the first settlers were before the French}
Also if Napoleon didnt recall his army back to France the English would have never settled into Upper Canada and we today would be speaking French.
Like it or not that would have happened my friends!!!! All of this a big IF and please dont take my comments personally I was just playing the devils advocate :respect:
Hajduk_Hrvatska
07-02-2005, 01:10 PM
Its an Italian saying for the English....cake eaters lol....mangi cakes
Getting back to Canada, correct me if Im wrong but the reason the term Dominion is nt used any more is because we have our own Constitution now so technically we do not fall under the umbrella of Dominion any more.
Ljubo my friend when the PC was in power then why did they not change the currency and get rid of that bitch of a whore off our bills, Ill tell you why...because the PC party if full of bleeding English bastards also.
Didnt Canada have a war with the Yanks so how can you say we didnt fight for our freedom.
Also remember this country was first discovered and settled by the French{ and yes Im aware of who the first settlers were before the French}
Also if Napoleon didnt recall his army back to France the English would have never settled into Upper Canada and we today would be speaking French.
Like it or not that would have happened my friends!!!! All of this a big IF and please dont take my comments personally I was just playing the devils advocate :respect:
More like non-existent but that works too.
croat hogan
07-02-2005, 01:42 PM
Didnt Canada have a war with the Yanks so how can you say we didnt fight for our freedom.
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I think the US amry during the revolutionary war sacked Montreal. I heard some Canadians are still pissed about that.
Zvonimir
07-02-2005, 02:45 PM
I think the US amry during the revolutionary war sacked Montreal. I heard some Canadians are still pissed about that.
I am just pissed about 96 when the Yanks beat us in hockey. But we have got our revenge since a number of times. :tongue1:
JureM
07-02-2005, 03:21 PM
I am just pissed about 96 when the Yanks beat us in hockey. But we have got our revenge since a number of times. :tongue1:
Yeah, and I'm still pissed the Canadians beat us in Basketball at the World University games in 1985...that damned Eli Pasquale! Shit, I never even knew Canada had a basketball team. :grin2:
CroatTommy7
07-02-2005, 03:59 PM
Canada had a war with America only because at that time it was still 100% an English colony, so really it was just an extension of the English fighting the former English(present Americans), not Canada fighting America(We would lose that war in a second if it was faught 50 years ago and esspecially now), those are morale and nationalism boosting wars, not real ones.
croat hogan
07-02-2005, 04:11 PM
Yeah, and I'm still pissed the Canadians beat us in Basketball at the World University games in 1985...that damned Eli Pasquale! Shit, I never even knew Canada had a basketball team. :grin2:
Didn't a Canadian invent basketball?
I think most Americans are still angry we didn't beat the Canadian women in curling.
Licki Macak
07-02-2005, 04:11 PM
Well if the Yanks fight like they do in Iraq and Afghan our contingent of 50 soldiers[thats all we have lol] should have no trouble whipping their arsses!!!
I know im going to ruffle some feathers here but if it wasnt for the Brits in Iraq bailing the Yank asses out every time they phuck up I have no idea where this so called occupation would be right now.
Ive seen the US Army up close and personal here in Canada and in Cro and if it wasnt for their technology which they use sooo well, they would be just like any other army.
JureM
07-02-2005, 04:20 PM
No offence...you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the US Military. I believe it was the US Military who trained our Army to be a very professional Army and because of that training, we were able to make that push called the Oluja.
I'll take the heart and fighting spirit of just 1 Marine over any other military in the world.
croat hogan
07-02-2005, 04:24 PM
Well if the Yanks fight like they do in Iraq and Afghan our contingent of 50 soldiers[thats all we have lol] should have no trouble whipping their arsses!!!
I know im going to ruffle some feathers here but if it wasnt for the Brits in Iraq bailing the Yank asses out every time they phuck up I have no idea where this so called occupation would be right now.
Ive seen the US Army up close and personal here in Canada and in Cro and if it wasnt for their technology which they use sooo well, they would be just like any other army.
A few things i think you have to take into consideration, first the Americans almost always whenever they peacekeep or get involved in a conflict are always in the most dangerous area's.
In Iraq for example their are only US troops in the Sunni triangle. The brits are in the much more peaceful southern part of the country. Even in Bosnia and Kosovo the US had the tough area's to defend. The US was in Srebenica, Gorazde and the border area's between the Serbs and the Cro's and Muslims.
This Germany guy that always comes to vacation in Croatia and stays at my uncle hotel is a COL. When he was in Bosnia he was in Banja Luka, easy assignemnt only Serbs their's no real tension to combat. The US is in the sticky area's.
I think the US troops are extrodinarly well trained my old suitemate in college is an Army Ranger it really is crazy stuff they learn and go through. But from people he knows and talks to including other armies soldiers in the world. He always tells me the Israeli's are probably pound for pound the best military in the world. And that the Checan rebels are the bravest.
Wow from Ljubo needing to empty out his box, to canada's anthem not being good, to the US fighting canada and now arguing who has a better military. No telling where this thread will take us.
Licki Macak
07-02-2005, 04:31 PM
Really!! Is this the same military boasted how they hunted down all the Talaban in Afghanistan but the real dirty fighting was done by the Pakistani Army who lost thousands of soldiers doing the job. The reason Pakistan done this is because the Yanks forgave them their debt to the U.S.
After High School I was very foolish and I joined the Canadian Armed Forces, so I hade the pleasure of seeing the so called best Army in action lol.
You have to admitt its a bit funny when they ask you how is it that I speak American so well. A lot of the Yanks are just High School drop outs so they really arent that bright to begin with.
Jure Im not bashing the Yanks, what Im saying all soldiers are pretty much alike. If you dont believe in what you are fighting for then all your weapons and tech stuff aint going to do you any good. ie: Serbs
JureM
07-02-2005, 04:41 PM
You have to admitt its a bit funny when they ask you how is it that I speak American so well. A lot of the Yanks are just High School drop outs so they really arent that bright to begin with.
Right, and I'd rather the high school drop out than some educated jackass like Gen. McKenzie of Canada who took part in a rape in one of the Serb "comfort" centers in BiH. Then tells the entire world that we are all equally to blame...or a General Rose of Britain who treated us Croatians like a bunch of animals while treating the real agressors with kid gloves.
Jure Im not bashing the Yanks, what Im saying all soldiers are pretty much alike. If you dont believe in what you are fighting for then all your weapons and tech stuff aint going to do you any good. ie: Serbs
Don't say that you aren't when you are. Any soldier who has nothing to fight for is going to be a bad soldier and any military that has no will will lose. The difference between the US and the rest of the world is simple..the guys in the military want to be there since it is an all volunteer army....unlike most of the world where they are conscripts.
You give me any one of these: US, Croatian, and Israeli soldiers, and you'll see 2 sets of soldiers with heart, guts, and a will. All we Croatians need is better weapons...the training is there now in Croatia, thanks to the Americans.
JureM
07-02-2005, 04:42 PM
By the way...how great is it that this thread is going off topic...and Ljubo said it would never last. :devilish:
Licki Macak
07-02-2005, 04:52 PM
LOL Im not bashing the Americans! And we dont need any Americans teaching us how to fight! I also agree on the #$ck sucker Gen. Mack. But then the Americans also had their own agenda in the war, with that prick ambassador who speaks serb to the arms embargo enforced by their own Navy...mind you they sold weapons to us behind the scenes lol via Germany
JureM
07-02-2005, 05:03 PM
If you're talking about Eagleburger you're right, the man is a prick. This guy fed the rest of the world the lie that the Serb soldier was some invicible warrior and that we Croatians were nothing more that Ustase who shouldn't be recognized until the border situation was settled...ie a Greater Serbia. It wasn't until a full year after the war started that people realized how much smoke eagleburger was throwing our way and that he had business dealings with Beograd and Milosevic worth millions...and don't get me started about the French who tried to undermine our war effort by keeping up the embargo so that their "allies" could win the war and form their "state."
As for training...I personally know 10 officers in the US Army (still in it and also now out of the military all together) a few Croatian-Americans who helped train the HV....what they said was simple, we had the will but we didn't have the discipline and the regimine a good professional Army should have. But, of course now we do.
Yes, the US did sell weapons to the HV behind the scenes through Germany. I remember when I was there and had to take a bus from Austria to Croatia how some people openly brought in arms...lol...heck I even saw a bazooka! ha ha.
Licki Macak
07-02-2005, 05:28 PM
Well since the war is all over and Im pretty sure some of you know this story. We had connections here at Person Airport in Toronto, guns,rifles,bazookas lol, bullet proof vests, night vision etc was shipped through customs and not one person was detained. I mean hundreds if not thousands of guns and rifles was shipped, a few got caught in Austria and Germany but that was just so it looked good, those caught were quickly released.
With our help from the diaspora and HV,HVO and HOS there was no way we could have lost to those little pussies.
JureM
07-02-2005, 05:33 PM
Well since the war is all over and Im pretty sure some of you know this story. We had connections here at Person Airport in Toronto, guns,rifles,bazookas lol, bullet proof vests, night vision etc was shipped through customs and not one person was detained. I mean hundreds if not thousands of guns and rifles was shipped, a few got caught in Austria and Germany but that was just so it looked good, those caught were quickly released.
With our help from the diaspora and HV,HVO and HOS there was no way we could have lost to those little pussies.
Yep...and I believe through Florida as well. But as we know, when the war first started we had absolutly nothing in terms of hard core weapons. Just rifles and whatever we could sieze in raids of "Yugo" Army bases throughout Croatia. That wasn't much but it was enough to fight off the advancing Armies from the east until real arms came in. Unlike the French pricks who would have seen us die and enjoy it.
Ljubuski
07-02-2005, 06:34 PM
In the greater game of Balkan politics the whole problem was we did not have a major power at the UN Security council ready to use a VETO in our favour.
Germany couldn't in any case because they never had the vote, but they did do us a major help.
Had it not been for the United States and yes even Bill Clinton, and their reasoned objective approach to the situation in 1994, realizing the only way to counter the Serb military power was the emerging Hrvatska Vojska, we might still be looking at 1/3 of our territory in enemy hands. Not to mention the problem in Bosna.
We should all be thanking the United States, though the help may have come late, but in the end if it weren't for them to balance the opposition to an independent Hrvatska from France, Britain and Russia who knows what would be going on now.
I tried to join the US military once and still regret not being able to get in.
In case anyone is wondering bashing the US military is common in Canada, because we know ours is so decrepit it's almost on the verge of being kicked out of NATO. So to make-up for our deficiences we knock the best of the best.
Oh Canada, what a joke.
Cheersch
Super Croat
07-02-2005, 07:19 PM
That side of Canada must really suck if people don't like it that much... I feel sorry for people who don't live in Vancouver.:)
On the other hand. I would much rather be living on the Croatian coast...
Lejla for your viewing pleasure.
Licki Macak
07-02-2005, 11:44 PM
Where is she staying?
Ljubuski
07-03-2005, 12:01 AM
It's utter nonsense to say the 'American' has not a fighting spirit in him.
What a joke.
Look up place names like Valley Forge, Iwo Jima, Omaha Beach, Gettysburg, Bastogne, and Hue and tell me that the Yanks can't fight. This is almost funny.
EVERY time the insurgents actually bother to engage the American forces in Iraq they get pulverized. Just like in Afghanistan with the Russians, when these cowards actuallly make a stand they get destroyed, because they have no discipline or tactical awareness. They're only fighting a protracted guerilla war that the liberal media is blowing out of proportion because it suits their agenda.
Scots, Irish, English, French, Germans, and especially the Scots-Irish all make up the core ethnic group of the American soldiers and tell me if any of the above mentioned nationalities can't fight. What a joke.
I'll take some good ol' Cumberland Scots-Irish or some ol' Brooklyn street toughs over anybody.
Except maybe, maybe ,continental infantry from Europe but that's for another time and place.
Cheersch
croat hogan
07-04-2005, 10:21 PM
In the greater game of Balkan politics the whole problem was we did not have a major power at the UN Security council ready to use a VETO in our favour.
Germany couldn't in any case because they never had the vote, but they did do us a major help.
Had it not been for the United States and yes even Bill Clinton, and their reasoned objective approach to the situation in 1994, realizing the only way to counter the Serb military power was the emerging Hrvatska Vojska, we might still be looking at 1/3 of our territory in enemy hands. Not to mention the problem in Bosna.
We should all be thanking the United States, though the help may have come late, but in the end if it weren't for them to balance the opposition to an independent Hrvatska from France, Britain and Russia who knows what would be going on now.
I tried to join the US military once and still regret not being able to get in.
In case anyone is wondering bashing the US military is common in Canada, because we know ours is so decrepit it's almost on the verge of being kicked out of NATO. So to make-up for our deficiences we knock the best of the best.
Oh Canada, what a joke.
Cheersch
I'll be the first one to tell you how much i hate Clinton. But i'll always say he was the man that helped us out more than anyone else in the world.
It always irks me when i go to Croatia and i see so many Hrvati sucking up to other Euro governments? They really try to make themselves look good in for the rest of the Western Europeans? But really other than Germany and Turkey also who else from Western Europe even bothered giving us a hand?
It's always funny to me that the Western Euro's nowadays always seem to say we need them that they bring alot to the table. But during the war they were scared to death of that a small two-bit dictator like Milosevic. I mean really the Americans were the one's who gave us money, gave us weapons, gave us training, and actually gave a damn what happened to us and the Bosnians. When NATO actually bombed the Serbs the US supplied 90% of all the bombs and supplies. And when peacekeeping came around the US had to go to the tough border area's while the french were sleeping in Mostar and Banja Luka. Where their's was more danger from flies. While the rest of Western Europe was too busy rallying everyone in the world to place an arms embargo on us. F**kin a-hole's. The US had to clean up a mess they either didn't care or were too scared to do anyting. Its amazing a continent like Europe couldn't even control a conflict like the one in Croatia.
Yet why do Cro's always flock to Europe for advice, protection and things of that nature when they really never gave a rat's ass about us during the time we needed help the most. I'll never forget when NATO bombed Serbia in 95 and then again in 98 during the Kosovo war. I remember Athens, Brussels, Paris protestors lining the streets at the US embassy. Where was the protest after Vukovar, Srebenica, or during any of the times when outright slaughtered happened. Yet Cro's trust these people, they want their approval. Other than Germany the US and a few other nations Cro's shouldn't bother with most of those Western European countries. Their scum, hypocritical bastards that don't give a rat's ass about Croatia. The US did help and really they didn't have to do this at all. Speaking as an American Croatia Bosnia has very little strategic value to the US. But nonetheless they helped.
Ljubuski, i think its time you move down here to the US. Your the worst Canadian i've ever seen.
Omolje
07-06-2005, 07:37 PM
it was also baker who gave milosevic the green light to ' save yugoslavia ', not to mention the US was one of the last nations to recognize us, they dont give a rats ass and like everywhere else only did what they did for their own personal interest
Ljubuski
07-06-2005, 08:52 PM
I'll be the first one to tell you how much i hate Clinton. But i'll always say he was the man that helped us out more than anyone else in the world.
It always irks me when i go to Croatia and i see so many Hrvati sucking up to other Euro governments? They really try to make themselves look good in for the rest of the Western Europeans? But really other than Germany and Turkey also who else from Western Europe even bothered giving us a hand?
It's always funny to me that the Western Euro's nowadays always seem to say we need them that they bring alot to the table. But during the war they were scared to death of that a small two-bit dictator like Milosevic. I mean really the Americans were the one's who gave us money, gave us weapons, gave us training, and actually gave a damn what happened to us and the Bosnians. When NATO actually bombed the Serbs the US supplied 90% of all the bombs and supplies. And when peacekeeping came around the US had to go to the tough border area's while the french were sleeping in Mostar and Banja Luka. Where their's was more danger from flies. While the rest of Western Europe was too busy rallying everyone in the world to place an arms embargo on us. F**kin a-hole's. The US had to clean up a mess they either didn't care or were too scared to do anyting. Its amazing a continent like Europe couldn't even control a conflict like the one in Croatia.
Yet why do Cro's always flock to Europe for advice, protection and things of that nature when they really never gave a rat's ass about us during the time we needed help the most. I'll never forget when NATO bombed Serbia in 95 and then again in 98 during the Kosovo war. I remember Athens, Brussels, Paris protestors lining the streets at the US embassy. Where was the protest after Vukovar, Srebenica, or during any of the times when outright slaughtered happened. Yet Cro's trust these people, they want their approval. Other than Germany the US and a few other nations Cro's shouldn't bother with most of those Western European countries. Their scum, hypocritical bastards that don't give a rat's ass about Croatia. The US did help and really they didn't have to do this at all. Speaking as an American Croatia Bosnia has very little strategic value to the US. But nonetheless they helped.
Ljubuski, i think its time you move down here to the US. Your the worst Canadian i've ever seen.
I know more about Canada than 99% of Canadians out there. I just haven't fallen victim to the brainwashing the Liberal Party of Canada and their cohorts at the CBC, and school system have inflicted on the people here.
The Canada you know is a by-product of the attempt to appease Quebecers, after the Silent Revolution in the 60's and 70's. CANADA, is a loyal monarchist colony, that was built in the aftermath of the American War of Independence, and was built on the backs of those that the American (Anglos/Englishmen) 'cleansed' after the war. The loyalists were expelled and many came here making Canada immediately, a French AND English colony which is why we are where we are today.
We're supposed to live in a free society. My views should be welcomed here in Canada but they're not. They actively support Mass Homicide of children, men marrying men, etc. etc. The fact you think I'm 'bad' Canadian goes to show how successful the Liberals have been.
They've changed the perception of the country so much that even foreigners, think that all Canadians have to bow down to the Liberal 'RED BOOK' and to their Dictator. I don't agree with them and now I'm not a Canadian.
Well suits me fine.
I'm Croatian, end of story.
Cheersch
ps. Omolje, irregardless of Baker, the US was THE one to help. We needed a vote on the security council and the US were the ones to supply it, they deserve credit because the others did nothing.
Licki Macak
07-06-2005, 09:24 PM
Ljubo just out of curiosity what party do you belong to? Dont get me wrong here I view all 3 parties the same way, but you seem to think that it was the Liberals that screwed up this country.
Ljubuski
07-06-2005, 09:30 PM
Ljubo just out of curiosity what party do you belong to? Dont get me wrong here I view all 3 parties the same way, but you seem to think that it was the Liberals that screwed up this country.
It was them and the damned Liberal paradigm that's been gnawing at the things that made this country great and the rest of Western Civilization.
Don't gimme this Progressive Conservative crap either. They weren't Conservative, they were Liberals who wore Blue.
Cheersch
Super Croat
07-06-2005, 10:38 PM
You might like the BC Provincial Liberals. They have no affiliation to the Federal Liberals.
Some of what they've done Since they've been in power:
-lowered personal income tax
-ripped up Gov't worker, Hospital worker and teachers contracts.
-Forced wage cuts to Hospital Employee Union workers
-Opened the door for Private Health Care
-Changed the laws so that teachers no longer have a legal right to strike
-Privatized BC Rail
Any way, the end result is that BC's, especially Vancouver's, economy has been booming.
So Vote for Gordon "Hitler" Campbell!:)
Ljubuski
07-07-2005, 08:25 PM
You might like the BC Provincial Liberals. They have no affiliation to the Federal Liberals.
Some of what they've done Since they've been in power:
-lowered personal income tax
-ripped up Gov't worker, Hospital worker and teachers contracts.
-Forced wage cuts to Hospital Employee Union workers
-Opened the door for Private Health Care
-Changed the laws so that teachers no longer have a legal right to strike
-Privatized BC Rail
Any way, the end result is that BC's, especially Vancouver's, economy has been booming.
So Vote for Gordon "Hitler" Campbell!:)
I really don't care about 'right' or 'left' politics. As long as there's equal chance given to those who express their views.
Heck, there are certain 'leftwing' views that I aspire to namely, protecting the environment and making sure workers have rights against these bloodsucking corporations, if it's through Unions great, if not then we have to protect workers' rights.
Why the US government is allowing US business to deal with Communist China is insulting to any free-thinking individual out there. They use what amounts to sweat shops and publicly mass-murder their own people, and of course opress countless ethnicities in China.
They accuse Hrvatska of one of these things and send our Generals to the Hague. I'm not saying our bhoys are innocent but at least show some equality.
Cheersch
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